D.A. When approached about Janes rape claim, an Arroyo Grande Police Department administrator said in an email that their search revealed no such records exist; therefore, there are no responsive documents. Before their findings, another administrator told The Daily Beast on the phone that because the matter was a sexual assault case it fell under a non-disclosure category and therefore they wouldnt be providing any specific information about it. Paul would try to get Kristins attention and she was too nice to tell him off. The interrogation was recorded just days after Smarts college friends alerted police that she was missing. Paul had this look on his face, the relative said. The earring was turned over to the San Luis Obispo Sheriff's Office, but investigators will never know if it belonged to Kristin, because it was misplaced. And there would be more disappointment in 2007, after the Smart's legal team searched a small portion of Susan Flores's backyard with ground penetrating radar and did not find any evidence. They didn't bring a forensics team. Last month, authorities searched Ruben Flores' home in Arroyo Grande. Mike McHugh is the producer-editor. James Murphy: Somebody found an earring that they say was Kristin Smart's jewelry in the driveway. / CBS News. In the crowd, taking it all in, was that podcaster, Chris Lambert. Murphy and his wife, Garin Sinclair, agreed to take the case pro bono promising to go after Paul Flores and put pressure on the sheriff's office. Resides in Blue Bell, PA. His father Ruben Flores charged with being an accessory after the factwas found not guilty. Jonathan Vigliotti found Flores outside his home in Southern California and asked him a number of questions about Kristin's disappearance. AKA: Susan Flores, Sue P Flores. Lawyers representing Paul Flores, a man found guilty last year of murdering Kristin Smart in San Luis Obispo in 1996, filed motions last week to dismiss the jury verdict and for a new trial. Jonathan Vigliotti: She had just 40 yards to go and yet she vanished. Jonathan Vigliotti: You look at Kristin Smart every day. and I was like, "Noooo.". Sources tell us investigators discovered videos and photographs on Flores' computer showing him engaged in sexual activity with at least 10 different women, apparently in various states of consciousness. D.A. James Murphy: And it says wrongful death and then I put murder. And yes, we believe it's linked to Kristin. So, when they were invited to a party that Friday night, Kristin was excited to go. Please come with me." After seizing an old car, digging in the back yard and taking evidence San Luis Obispo County sheriff deputies concluded their search of an Arroyo Grande home related to the 1996 disappearance of Kristin Smart. James Murphy: Well, the location where all this activity occurred is where they found the biological material. He was writing your name like 150 times on a piece of paper and he kept circling it., High school boys are weird anyway, Jane thought at the time. He believes that meant "the batteries went dead and that the object that was beeping hadn't been there very long.". James Murphy: It was just a sad phone call to have somebody say, our daughter disappeared and we think she's the victim of foul play and we'd like to pursue the guy that we think is responsible. Have a good day, he said. He'd go anywhere. She was too kind-hearted. They took off running, Jane said. Jane said she took Flores up on carpool offers to and from high school whenever she would be walking solo from her mothers home in Arroyo Grande, California. She left them only after he promised to take Kristin back to her dorm. Kristin Smart and Paul Flores were briefly seen speaking to each other during the party. This boy walked up to me and said Oh hey, you need to be careful of that Paul Flores, I think hes stalking you. San Luis Obispo County. Multiple attempts to reach Flores and his parents to comment on the new accusations were unsuccessful. Ian Parkinson: I committed to them that I was going to go back to the beginning and re-examine every piece of evidence that we had. By this point Sarahs ex-boyfriend arrived and he and his friends scared Flores and his pal, trying to make sure they never showed their faces again. Chris Lambert says they're cautiously optimistic. Its a fib. 2020 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved. Later, he told detectives that Smart was walking just fine and returned to her dorm while he returned to his dorm. Jonathan Vigliotti: Was this case, given the evidence that was lost early on, doomed from the very beginning? The Arroyo Grande cops, Jane said, favored Floress story that she willingly drank and had sex that night. For more than two decades, her family, friends, and supporters searched for answers and for justice. The Smart family. Murphy has filed a new civil suit against Ruben Flores for the intentional infliction of emotional distress. She was saved by their male roommate, who barged in because of Lauras blood-curdling screams. I'm going to go back to the dorms. James Murphy: They brought in the first dog and they'd had the dog go through the dorms. Denise Pearce: She was becoming more and more alarmed, you know? Her younger sister Lindsey says their mother urged Kristin to go there. That's when the campus police finally handed the investigation over to The San Luis Obispo Sheriff's Office but they did not find Kristin. When Lambert later told Kristin's mother, Denise, about those early morning beeping sounds in Susan Flores's backyard, he said her reaction was "shock we just kind of stared at each other for a good long time I think it took a while to settle in, that this could potentially be huge." And they told Lambert they weren't surprised when they heard about Flores's connection to Kristin's disappearance. putting murder on the lawsuit was sending a message to Paul Flores and his family, that we believe that he killed Kristin and that we're coming for him. But as Chris Lambert learned, Flores's pattern of behavior with women didn't stop. Whatever happened in those early hours, one thing is indisputable: Kristin Smart has never been seen again. suddenly major pieces of evidence came forward. That mother, Mary Lassiter, described it to Chris Lambert. Chris Lambert: That's the upsetting part about it, isn't it? That warrant allowed them to dig up the backyard, but deputies chose not to excavate. The only thing that she remembered next was being dragged in the barely lit street by her alleged rapist on one arm and his pal on the other. Little is known since the proceedings are kept secret, but no charges were ever filed. In the meantime, Paul Flores moved to Southern California, where he bounced from job to job. Like the Smart's civil case, theirs also has been on hold. But the Flores's have fought back, suing the Smarts for intentional infliction of emotional distress. Paul Flores, then also a 19-year-old freshman, had . Produced by Lisa Freed. So, I said, "you better turn some lights on right now and let me out or I'm going to scream." Jonathan Vigliotti: How did you know she hadn't been back? An earring that appeared to match the necklace Kristin is wearing on the billboard. Through the years, the Smarts have kept pressure on the Flores family. October 22, 2022 / 10:10 PM PODCAST EPISODE 1: I googled Kristin Smart's name every few years. Chris Lambert: They just have never given up and are never going to give up on their daughter. It had been the focus of widespread speculation for more than two decades especially her planter boxes. Like what may have been discovered in March 2021 when investigators searched Ruben Flores' house using cadaver dogs and ground penetrating radar. Flores spit that he would rape her, she said. First published on November 28, 2020 / 11:10 PM. Davis was helping Smart get up to her feet with Anderson when Flores suddenly appeared out from the darkness, Peuvrelle said. Around 2 a.m., party-goer Tim Davis told Smart that she could not spend the night passed out on the party houses front lawn because it was too cold. Kristin Smart Murder Trial: Who's who The judge only allowed 1 media pool camera inside the courtroom. They're known for being a really safe school.". Now several women say they were victims before and after her, too. The Kristin Smart Scholarship has been established by her family to help other college bound women pursue their dreams. Chris Lambert: He actually hit his eye on his steering wheel in the middle of the night while changing his stereo. But as Chris Lambert learned, campus police did not act right away. Denise Pearce says that was a crushing blow for the Smart family. It is also what the Smarts have been waiting for for more than a quarter of a century. Laura said Flores worked a construction job while attending school but that he was very secretive and she suspected he was in college forever so that his mommy kept paying for his housing and classes.. Margarita soon decided she'd had enough. There was no change in the soil consistent with that.. An important tip came in after a February 2020 search of Paul, Susan and Ruben's properties. View the profiles of people named Ermelinda Thomas. Smart appeared to be under the influence of alcohol on Friday night. A popular true-crime podcast, Your Own Backyard, revived public interest in Smarts disappearance. Investigators could have excavated the yard, but their decision not to was a crushing blow for the Smart family. And I was, like, "uh OK, fine.". Margarita Campos: I was a little bit more introverted and inhibited and she was like, "no, we have to go out and we have to go like live life." Deputies seized a mattress cover from the bed with a blood stain. I had zero interest in her, according to prosecutors. It's been a long night for the Smart family and San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's detectives as they continued to investigate an Arroyo Grande property belonging to Ruben Flores. The backyard was all concrete except for a couple of areas where planter boxes had been created by cutting out the concrete and filling them with soil. most importantly they wanna find their daughter. Two days after her daughter went missing, Denise Smart got a call from Cal Poly's campus police. A jury acquitted Ruben Flores of the charge of being an accessory after the fact. Flores attempted to kiss Anderson before she walked away around 2:30 a.m. She refused his advances because she was creeped out, Peuvrelle said. Also known as Melinda E Flores. Flores allegedly told campus police, I did not find Kristin attractive. Chris Lambert: The only thing he would confirm on tape is that his name is Paul Flores. And very chilling. No-no-no. If you come near her again I will kill you!, His buddy pushed Paul real hard and he fell through a desk before he ran for his life.. She made a decision that shes regretted ever since. According to a county probation bail report obtained by the San Luis Obispo Tribune, "biological evidence" was found under Ruben's deck. He invoked the Fifth Amendment 27 times. In 2002, after getting kicked out of Cal Poly, rejected by the Navy, and flipping burgers, Flores matriculated at LA Harbor Community College. Lindsey Smart Stewart: "You should go to Cal Poly. And I was screaming. We were standing by the washer and dryer and we were arguing and he shouted, No! and slapped my arm, Laura said. Chris Lambert: It's mostly frat guys from the Kappa Chi fraternity. To declare to the public if you stay quiet, you will get away with this. He slammed me and then pushed me up against the inside wall by the toilet, his hands were on my upper arms and he started telling me all these sick things he was going to do to me.. The murder trial began on Monday with opening statements from prosecutors and Flores defense attorney. In one of Paul's police interviews he mentioned that he wanted to be let out of the interview because he needed to help clean up concrete at his mom's house So, what was being done in Susan Flores's backyard in the weeks after Kristin went missing? Susan's house was finally searched in March 1997 nine months after Kristin disappeared but nothing was found. It would be three more years before the property was searched again. I knocked on her door, and I thought she was just sleeping, or she went out and about, you know? Ermelinda Flores' property in Washington state has been searched by investigators in February 2020. Im fine. The family attorney refused to comment when reached by The Daily Beast. The living room had a TV and one sofa and the floor was white, she said. DAN DOW [press conference]: We have evidence that we do believe there are other people that are not yet identified that have had some kind of a criminal act perpetrated on them by Mr. Flores. Four months earlier, Kristin Smart, a freshman at California Polytechnic State University better known as Cal Poly had gone to a party on Friday, May 24 the start of the Memorial Day weekend. San Luis Obispo County sheriff's officials gather under a coroner's tent in the backyard of Ruben Flores' house in the 700 block of White Court in Arroyo Grande on April 13. At the time, she was a 19-year-old freshman at Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo, who'd grown up in Stockton, Calif. On the night of her disappearance, she was spotted at a house party, which she left with three people. James Murphy: Every day. Nearly a week after their arrests, father and son both pleaded not guilty in San Luis Obispo County Superior Court. Chris Lambert: I remember seeing it on the news it was something scary and they were talking about it pretty regularly. The Lassisters say soon after, strange postcards began showing up in their mailbox. His podcast, "Your Own Backyard," has become a big hit attracting millions of listeners eager to hear every detail surrounding this unsolved case. They took in soil, I assume, for some kind of analysis. Any evidence that might have been there was long gone. I said, Stop it. FBI via AP, File. James Murphy: The question for decades was "Well, where did the body go?". They believe they can prove Paul Flores is responsible for the disappearance of Kristin Smart. But one of those friends told police Flores already had the black eye when he arrived. Denise Pearce: The investigation was completely botched by the campus police. Critics called. Chris Lambert: Everything else, he took the Fifth Amendment. My job was to hunt them. 2020 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved. What happens next? He says "no.". The next thing I know is the cops telling me We cant do anything because [Paul] and his friend are saying she was drunk and it was consensual., But Jane said she fought to get them to reconsider. That turned out to be college. SHERIFF IAN PARKINSON [at press conference]: Forensic physical evidence was located. so eventually he unlocked you know, the apartment door, and I left. He claimed he didnt even know her name, Peuvrelle said. I told him, You never do this again! Just days after she disappeared, an incident report seemed to imply that Kristin's behavior contributed to her disappearance. Despite identifying a prime suspect for her murder, law enforcement did not arrest Flores until 2021. The National Read Across America Day takes place every year on March 2, Geisels birthday. However hard she and her father fought back, there was no chance they were going to get beyond the he said, she said. I was drunk and he had a witness and I didnt, Jane said. Chris Lambert: It's hard to take too much credit But I was one piece of the puzzle that helped to make this all come together when it did. By herself, which is pretty amazing. When they reached the turnoff to Cheryl's dorm, she says Flores tried to hug and kiss her. "YOUR OWN BACKYARD" PODCAST: EPISODE 1: It's a cold and cloudy winter afternoon in San Luis Obispo and I'm retracing missing Cal Poly student Kristin Smart's last known steps. The Smart's attorney James Murphy, and his wife and office manager Garin Sinclair, have had Kristin's billboard in their front yard since late 1997. She told him that shortly after moving in, she was washing her car in the driveway and found an earring next to the left front tire. Chris Lambert: So much was lost in those first few days where if that very first phone call was taken seriously answers might have been uncovered the first week. James Murphy: Having a black eye doesn't make you guilty of anything but if the person you were with disappeared from the planet that's physical evidence. In the months after Kristin's disappearance, one truck was traded in and the other was reported stolen. He says they are Ruben's ex-wife Susan and her boyfriend. Paul Flores spotted July 29,2017, in Food4Less grocery store located in Arroyo Grande, CA. Lindsey Smart Stewart: It just amazes me the amount of evidence that's available, yet nothing has happened. Thats when everyone got involved, she said. James Murphy: An eyewitness actually documented the fact that throughout the night that there was activity in the area of the underside of that deck. Ruben lived here with his wife, Susan, and their children, Ermelinda and Paul. It's just a motivator for me. Jonathan Vigliotti: They thought she was off possibly having fun. 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I never realized its the same guy that harassed [Sarah], he said. Flores defense attorney, Robert Sanger, told the jury, This obviously is a tragic situation in one sense or another. At the time of Smart's disappearance, Flores was a 19-year-old food science major at Cal-Poly. When Kristin Smart disappeared, Paul Flores's parents Susan and Ruben were separated and living apart. When Anderson looked back one last time at Flores and Smart, she saw that he was leading Smart toward his dorm, Santa Lucia Hall, not Muir Hall, the prosecutor told the jury. DAN DOW [press conference]: It is alleged that Mr. Flores caused the death of Kristen Smart while in the commission of or attempted rape. Alicia Tejada is the field producer and Addison Briley is the associate producer. In June of 1996, the San Luis Obispo County Sheriffs Office brought in four cadaver dogs to sniff dorms on campus. It is every parent's worst nightmare. PODCAST EPISODE 2 | WOMAN #2: You wouldn't want to be alone in a room with him. Like so many freshmen, Kristin struggled. (The office hired a detective in 2015 to work on Unsolved Crimes for $15,000 a month: There are four open homicide investigations and Smarts remains an unsolved missing persons case. Those were kind of unspoken things. Once Jane was admitted her story seemed to fall on deaf ears. The day after my sister disappeared, Paul Flores had a black eye and scratches on him. Other names that Ermelinda uses includes Ermelinda M Macarthur, Ermelinda M Flores, Ermelinda M Mac Arthur, Ermelinda Flores and Ermelinda M Thomas. I was lying down on my back. In October 2022, Paul. I think they're just waiting to see what the outcome is going to be. I dont like to talk about that day.. And these girls are inviting us out. JAMES MURPHY: In May of 96 were you a student at Cal Poly? Ruben Flores defense attorney is slated to deliver his opening statements when the two trials resume on Thursday in a Monterey County courtroom. As she told Chris Lambert, "In the master bedroom, I'm hearing this 'beep beep' every night at 4:20, or 4:20 in the morning." I blacked out and didnt consent to anything.. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Used to live: San Luis Obispo CA, Arroyo Grande CA, Torrance CA. In the fall of 1996, a young mother named Mary Lassiter was looking for a house to rent in Arroyo Grande, California. Im good. As of this date, Paul is single. The fact is, there is a lot of sort of evidence. I say that because you will see, when you actually listen to what comes out, its not what it seems to be, Sanger said. His father, Ruben Flores, is also on trial because investigators charged him with hiding Smarts body. Flores told campus police that he never talked to Smart at the house party, but multiple witnesses who were at the party saw the two talking together next to a tiki bar inside the house. Garland testifies before Senate panel amid ongoing special counsel probes, Colon cancer rates rising in younger age group, study finds, Firefighter dies battling blaze in downtown Buffalo, mayor says, Prosecution wraps its case at Alex Murdaugh murder trial, Top McCarthy aide, House Oversight chair each met with Ashli Babbitt's mother, What to know about Shigella bacteria as drug-resistant strain spreads, Ex-Georgia star Jalen Carter was racing in deadly crash, arrest warrants allege, Fiery train crash in Greece kills dozens, many of them students, Bipartisan Senate group unveils rail safety bill in response to Ohio derailment, Sneak peek: The Disappearance of Kristin Smart. Kristin Smart went missing from Cal Poly in 1996. Chris Lambert says, two days after that, when Flores was interviewed by campus police, they asked how he got his black eye as well as scratches on his hands and knees. And DNA evidence could not be found linking any other evidence to Kristin. But Murphy says there were other incidents that should have raised alarm bells about him with law enforcement from the very beginning. In April 2021, investigators finally put the pieces of the puzzle together and decided they had enough to charge the then-44-year-old Paul Flores with Kristin's murder, and his then-80-year-old father with being an accessory after the fact. Since Parkinson came on the scene, investigators have dug up hillsides; searched the homes and properties of all the Flores'; collected evidence; seized Paul Flores' computers; monitored his cell phone and text messages, and found new witnesses -- some with the help of Chris Lambert. Janes mother frantically phoned her father. Chris Lambert: They did a significant amount of digging underneath the house. Paul Flores - Cal Poly student and Food Science major, Paul Flores lived on campus in room #128 of Santa Lucia Hall Dormitory. Chris Lambert: They didn't bring cadaver dogs with them. LOS ANGELESShe remembers being dragged down Elm Street as she vomited, propped up by a young man and his pal who snickered and cursed her. According to the defense, a forensics expert said if it was a grave, you would find hairs, bones, and a big change in the soil composition. Murphy alleges four nights later, strange activity was seen at Ruben's house. They told her Kristin had not been seen all weekend and asked if Kristin was with them. Four months later, while attempting to reconcile, Susan rented out her house in Arroyo Grande. James Murphy: The podcast is out. Ann-Marie Christian: Her parents reminded me of my parents. She never saw accepting the rides as anything but wholesome. During a camping trip in Fresno, California, in the early 1990s, Floress female cousins playfully swiped and hid his wallet while walking en route to a liquor store to purchase slush puppies. Sanger said the backyard grave was not at grave at all, and no human blood, hair, or bones were found in it. And Murphy and Sinclair believe they can prove it. Over the years, while Stan Smart hiked every trail around California's Central Coast in hopes of finding Kristin's remains, Denise relentlessly pushed law enforcement to do more. It's, like, she has nothing on her. A break in the case happened in 2020 when sheriffs deputies wire-tapped the phones of Flores, his father, and his mother to record their private conversations. Stan and Denise Smart, Kristins parents, sent The Daily Beast a statement praising the women for coming forward to share their stories and hope it leads to a break in their missing daughters case. So, she slowed down and walked with them. My heart dropped, she said. 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