We will learn a lot along the way, and it will be worthwhile if I can help even one person.. [00:00:01] Bob: This week on The Perfect Scam. And a couple of things; they can see if it's a landline, they can see if maybe the mobile carrier, they can see, maybe they're, they can find your address, they can find your, your name, your last name, your spouse's name, your children's name, your grandparents' name. Im 1000% sure that giving a list of his voice characters in one article to the crooks is in no way helping his heroic efforts. And then, of course, she called my dad and verified that everything was okay with me and all of that. [00:10:57] Scammer: So what are you trying to do with me? [00:00:51] Pierogi: Yes you do. And they were giving legitimate support. So again, just, it's the same voice, but I would take a couple of variations to it just to make it sound a little bit different, maybe it sounds different to you all, maybe it doesn't, I don't know, but to the scammers it's worked. "I do my real job, I work in cybersecurity," he said. Bob McCullough is an experienced author, journalist and freelance writer. Born in the year 1996 and based in the United States, Pierogi is 27 years old as of this post. So like the one on that one, he just looked up my fake phone number, and that one number is in Miami, so I'm like, "Oh yeah," you know, "How did you know?" Scambaiter, scambaiting videos where we destroy scammers their operation after hacking / ratting the scammer their computer. You may not know what color his hair will be when you tune into his videos, bright blue is among his favorites, but you can be sure he'll make you laugh, and you'll root for him when you ride along as he takes criminals on wild goose chases. That's the other part. So sometimes I might be saying something and they're speaking Punjab or they're speaking Bengali, and I don't understand any of that. If someone's telling you not to tell people what's going on, and I like to do that in my calls. [00:05:11] Pierogi: My wife is Eastern European. So these scammers are getting better information on people. A big fan of pierogis. The Entertainment channel Scammer Payback has attracted 3.35 million subscribers on YouTube. You will be asked to register or log in. Inspired by people like Jim Browning, Scammer Payback and ScammerRevolts. We give you trending news and famous personalities all around the world. So I took him under my wing and, and I've just been catching up with him and kind of understanding what's been going on in his life and we were able to, through the community, the Scammer Payback community, we actually uh paid for his living for an entire year. I would not, I would not mess with them. receive communications related to AARP volunteering. Pierogi is based in the United States and was born in the year 1996, making him 27 years old as of today. Pierogi is a writer and producer, known for Scammer Payback (2019). Pierogi is a married man. [00:19:53] Pierogi: There's another prominent scam baiter in the space that I talk with, and he's watching another call center, and he, he and I email and text back and forth and things like that, and he sent me an, an email of a picture of a scammer's computer, and they're actually watching my previous livestream. As you heard, he sometimes uses a cast of characters even changing his voice to catch criminals in the act. [00:06:37] Bob: So he takes the phone calls and engages with the criminals. I create a virtual machine that the scammers connect into. He's been doing this for years, and now Perfect Scam listeners, you're going to meet Pierogi and his cast of victims. A MUST read for any fan: An Alphabetical Guide to Scammer Payback! Next time a scammer calls me, I'm going to give them the business. Call Center Spy, I Found their Scam Call Center.Lets call them, and many more. And actually the guy's become my friend now. So the more trust they can build, the more rapport they can build, then the easier the scam is for them. YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, Facebookyou name it, hes there. I'm about to get in the car to go home. When I was in high school, I became pretty fluent in Spanish, and I really enjoyed that language. So how does he operate? [00:02:43] Pierogi: I worked in the IT world in specifically cybersecurity for a number of years and these guys also tried going after my grandmother a, a different way. Let's say somebody listens to this and they say, I want to be Pierogi. Hey pierogi I think I have a new scammer for you and this one oh you're going to enjoy it he's picking on a homeless guy that would be me Andrew Rushing the stupid fool that decided to well trust someone another human being that they would help me but alas no . I'm sorry honey, I have a Southern accent, so, I don't know if maybe you're not hearing me. [00:00:33] Pierogi: Why would you try to, why would you try to, to tell me that theres fake viruses is on my computer, and then tell me that I owe you $25,000? [00:18:37] Pierogi: Yeah, um, there, there are a number of different things I would say, but they can look up all your information. Scammer Payback began his YouTube channel in 2019 and is thought to be between the ages of 25 and 32. 'Scammer Payback' is a popular American YouTuber who makes scam baiting content on YouTube. Fight back using the free & safe scambaiting phone service BobRTC. Whats different about Pierogi from other scam baiters like Browning and Kitboga is the over-the-top videos, along with the atmosphere of mystery he cultivates. Movies. Tell me what you want to do. So, you have a lot of folks, a, a lot of millions of people and there's a lot of them that aren't working, and they're trying to find work, so they're trying to find legitimate work. Maybe you are a fan of Pierogi and Scammer Payback-- this SP hoodie is a MUST when you're baiting! Contents 1 Content 2 Characters 2.1 Vivian Rogers 2.2 Wilson Carter (Aka Dr Carter) 2.3 Betty Reid 2.4 Mary Swanson 2.5 Bertha 3 Quotes 4 Milestones 5 Trivia 6 References Content ). With over 2 million subscribers, Scammer Payback captivates YouTube viewers with his ability to spot scams and flip the script on the scammers. She is amazing. So, but we're getting there, so it's going to take some time, but it, sometimes it gets respect from them so that they give me information but and then sometimes it ticks them off when I say certain words like ullu ka pattha which is like a little owl kind of. We have a Tesla that we drive in and we play music to the scammers and play it really loud so it hurts their ears and you know they, they don't like certain things like that, but I've had some scam bait calls that have gone for six months where I will just continue to build a relationship with a scammer, and when I say build a relationship, they still think I'm a victim, so they think that they're getting a big payout. Advice is good, tips are good, but criminals, we'll they're going to keep trying to find a way around our advice. Did we make any mistakes? Yes. You remind me of my dad." It's hard not to wonder, does he ever get scared? I have a little bit of a southern accent, and I'm, you know, I have a character named Roy Miller, and he kind of got a little bit of an accent here. Some YouTube channels earn even more than $7 per thousand video views. I'll show you how everything's going. Press Esc to cancel. His "second job" is to just ruin a scammer's day. We will learn a lot of things along the way and if I help . They just make all the money from it. Like you have to have someone that's trusted in your family or a friend or if you don't have family around or a friend, or somebody that's close that you can trust and like trust with not necessarily your data and you're not like giving them your data, but can you verify something even sounds a little bit fishy, like take a, take a step back, pause, take a deep breath, take a swig of, of tea or something and be like, okay, this person just hit me with all this information, I've been hacked, or I'm going to go to jail, or I owe somebody a bunch of money, or my grandchild is in jail right now and I need to write a check, like let me call someone and run this by them and verify. [00:25:57] Pierogi: Yeah, it, it's been, I, I can't necessarily divulge all of what I do, but um, you know, we're able to essentially find addresses in the United States where money mules, so other organized crime that are coordinating with the scammers overseas, and they have people that go to places like Airbnbs, or they'll go to a CVS that has a FedEx inside of it, or they'll just got to an abandoned house that they know the address that nobody's living there, and then they'll have people send money to those addresses, they pick them up, and then they leave. [00:14:55] Scammer: Its got a lot of (inaudible). This is the official page for supporters of the man known as Pierogi, creator of Scammer Payback. His net worth is around $1 million, which seems realistic given the size of his massive following, not to mention he sells merch and has over 650 people supporting him through Patreon. [00:09:08] Bob: It sounds funny, and it is entertaining, but Pierogi takes his work very seriously. Scammer Payback, aka Pierogi, is in his 30s. Millions of people watch these films. [00:21:06] Bob: The scam world is evolving constantly, so we asked Pierogi what he's seeing on the front lines right now. TheyStealUrTaxMoney 10 mo. So maybe you mess with them one day and you thought everything was gone, but they're still there watching you, so then they can watch you logging into your email addresses, your bank accounts, you name it, without you even knowing. (For the right timing, please check his description for time Schedule. I, I think it's been called that a couple of other places as well, but essentially what happens is they have their scammers in the United States that will go down a list of, a phone book list, you know, if you will, and they call up what they believe to be a grandmother, an older, elderly person, or a grandfather. My channel is all about bringing awareness to this critical problem with humor and fun. If you would like to change your settings or withdraw consent at any time, the link to do so is in our privacy policy accessible from our home page.. Laguna Beach CA 92651 So when, naturally when I got into the scambaiting world, there's been people in the past that will just kind of curse at the scammers, and I, I typically want to just know what they're saying about me. For more information on scams, members of the public can visit the Scam Alert website or call the Anti-Scam Hotline at 1800-722-6688. Learn how to subscribe to AARP Podcasts on any device. And unfortunately, it happens here all the time. What I'm trying to accomplish with her voice is like a raspiness, but then also I can take that, and I can speak softer. Includes Discord benefits 1,018 patrons About Scammer Payback Goals 82% complete Attention scambaiters! Run by Pierogi So, it's really, my mind's really shifted over the years, and I think we've really impacted the space. [00:37:28] Bob: All this work pays off, especially if you measure the payoff in YouTube views. He joined Youtube on May 15, 2019, and uploaded his first video on May 16, 2019, titled Scammer SysKeys me, but I know the password! As far as I'm aware he uses a virtual machine and downloads the anydesk program in the VM. No it's not. He does make an effort to help the victims, however. [00:10:43] Pierogi: How about you go look at your C drive and see there's no files there anymore. It's dangerous. She's just giving someone $10,000 a month and now she's, all of her disability check or her Social Security is, is going to this person that we know it's a scam. We have detected that you are using extensions to block ads. Plus, they could book speaking presentations. Don't buy gift cards to make payments to anyone ever. Everything is searchable on the internet, so they can take your phone. [00:06:00] Pierogi: Not for my waistline though. [00:13:27] Pierogi: Some of the times too, the scammers will essentially allow us to see their computers, they'll give us a--, approval to see their computer. Come join Pierogi as he fights back against scammers. While Scammer Payback's actual net worth is not public known, our website sources online video data to make an estimate of $7.15 million. Be sure to find us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts. So I really was just thinking one day, because I had to have some kind of name to protect my identity as much as I can, right. [00:44:48] Bob: So people who are, work at these companies, that have legitimate reason for your data, uh steal it and then sell it to criminals. I think about that every single day, but um, it's been a calling of mine, and I've helped bring people together, and the channel's helped a lot of people, and a lot of people tell me that they, it took a lot for them to get through, like all the pandemic stuff and, and lonely, loneliness and not being around people, but they felt, like we have a really, really good community of people, and um, a lot of people have gathered together from all walks of life, all countries, so many different countries around the world, so many different age groups, from 18 to 83. So they say, "Hey," um, you know, "Is this X-Y-Z?" Scammers fleece Americans over 60 to the tune of over $24 million a year, and streamers like Kitboga and Jim Browning have worked the vigilante gig to the point where they claim to have millions of subscribers to their channels. Scammer Paybacks career, girlfriend, Wikipedia biography, and more are all shown here. Scam Buster Uses Real Bank Accounts To Lure Scammers April 14, 2021 A youtuber that runs the channel Scammers Payback, had failed often to lure scammers using fake bank accounts as scammers now work behind the scenes to validate that bank accounts are real before engaging with victims. Entertainment wise, works hard to ensure that his followers get some laughs along the way. Memz, nanocore, anything will be used to destroy them. So it's really, really sad. So this isn't even an investigation that's taking six months. So I'll do that because again, paying homage to my family from being from the South, but then you've got like a, a couple of variations. Please do not DM me for personal scam help.. So it's a crazy process and it goes really, really fast. And then some of the scammers, many years ago, one day they said, well what if we could just go and do it ourselves, instead of being Microsoft we could say we're a third party to Microsoft. So I think that I'm making a dent where I can, and I think I really tick off the scammers and we're exposing a lot, and we're helping save some victims, but I do fear that um, it, that I'm not, I am not doing enough or enough isn't being done because it's a numbers game at some point, and there's a heck of a lot more scammers that are out there than,than me or Jim Browning can handle. There's people in the romance world, you know, trying to find someone to be with that they just want someone to love them, and they're giving money away hand over fist. An Alphabetical Guide to Scammer Payback! That's, that's one of the nuances that they do. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Email: [emailprotected] #WeAreAllScambaiters. There's a lot of the scammers like they know its, when they find out it's me when I'm talking to them, they, even on the last video, they just said, "You're ruining our job. [00:28:06] Bob: Having spent hours and hours on the phone with criminals, Pierogi has come to understand their world quite a bit. No, a scan. He has more than 1.4M subscribers and over 115,928,280 views on his Youtube channel (Scammer Payback). There's software and there's hardware. [00:09:36] Pierogi: I've already purchased 10 for my grandson. He was, his parents weren't there for his wedding. AARP is a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization that empowers people to choose how they live as they age. And that goes into a whole 'nother scam an, an intimidation type thing where they kind of play on your fears. How does that feel to have zero files on your C drive? You could be asking: how old is Pierogi? He'd just married. The Perfect ScamSMis a project of theAARP Fraud Watch Network, which equips consumers like you with the knowledge to give you power over scams. TheSinfulPlatypus 10 mo. The predictions are reviewed by editors and industry professionals. Sometimes they don't understand that they are, but they do. That's one of the end results for some of these scammers; they get their victims to put cash inside of a uh, inside of a book, and then put inside of a box, and then wrap it up and then send it out. It's very straightforward, but I've not heard it before. Together as the scambaiting community we can make a . Office location: This is a scam. On Instagram, he has 22.7k followers with 147 posts, and his bio reads, The Official Scammer Payback account!. It's not a real job. He calls himself Pierogi, and he's a hero on the internet to everyone except professional scammers. So, it's very interesting, but we highlighted in one of our, in one of our videos that in Calcutta specifically, during the pandemic I think they had a 45% unemployment rate in Calcutta. You can also manage your communication preferences by updating your account at anytime. [00:06:10] Pierogi: Typically the scammers that I'm going after now are um, some of these call center-based scammers that are working overseas, because there's just such an influx of phone calls that we're getting from folks, unwanted phone calls, not just telemarketing, but people trying to scam us and pretend to be law enforcement agencies, or, you know, Amazon or Microsoft, you name it. [00:09:43] Scammer: So your computer is locked then. There is a lot of human suffering behind all these crimes. We reverse the connection so they think they're dealing with my computer but Im dealing with theirs, he explained. So they're definitely very nervous, we're just doing everything that we can to expose these guys, and again, like I said, we're not the police, we're YouTubers, but uh somebody's got to fight back. So [00:31:25] Bob: Here, here's the question I'm dying to ask I bet everybody's wondering, okay, some of what you're doing, you know you flat out tell people you're scamming; you should stop. [00:21:15] Pierogi: Again, we deal with a very, a varying degree of scams that are out there, but we typically deal with these call centers that do like either a text support scam, so I'll kind of go into that first one. Who is Ally Q aka cojiba? In reality, Scammer Payback's net worth may really be much more. How do we do stuff like that? You can definitely find him on social media, though. So I try to stay in character to again one, waste their time, but two, try to collect information on them and show people how this stuff works, and show them how crazy the scammers will go, and like to what lengths they'll go. A lot of these times we're actually accessing this information in real time with thousands of people watching and then telling the scammer that hey, we know your name, we know your location, we have your photos right here, and you know, we've got a video, a scammer exposed video that's almost at 10 million views on YouTube and they're like, well tell us who we are then if you, you know, they kind of challenge you, and then I'm like, well your wall is this color, and there's six of you in there. He has over 54.6K followers on his Twitch account (ScammerPayback), Over 15.5K Followers on his Twiter account @ScammerPayback, over 11k followers on his official Instagram @scammerpayback, and more than 4641 Followers on his official Tiktok account @scammerpayback. One video is almost at 20 million views. And he, I was on the phone with him as a grandpa character, his, his name's Wilson Carter, and the, the scammer had been working there for a couple of days, and I was talking with him, and I had a story that my wife had passed away. I could call on him, he would pick up. So there are a lot of risks. You know, just a, a second person, you know, like to get a second opinion on, on we, we have done these studies at AARP about the psychology of scams, and a big part of the crime is to just put someone suddenly into a different emotional state somehow. Considering his youtube videos, most of the scammers are from India who tries to play money game using fake contacts related to Social Security, Amazon, Roku, Microsoft, ETC. Scambaiter - 1.32M subscribers. So how does he operate? Welcome to the Scammer Payback Merchandise Store! Net Worth Spot is the largest resource that estimates influencers' net worth. [00:00:04] Pierogi: How many people do you have working at Microsoft. Ma'am, if you look on the top there will be help. And uh so we've, we've really tried to do as many things as we could creatively to shine a light on these scams and, and the people that are behind it and bring shame to the people that are behind these scams because, again, I'm not the police, I'm not law enforcement, so I try my very best to either help people from being scammed or expose the ones that are scamming. And then that person would be like, "Well no, the Social Security Administration's not going to call you and tell you that there's, you know, 20 pounds of cocaine in a, in a Toyota Corolla that was left at the border of Texas." More Entertainment channels: So I think about more of the positives than like any of the bad guys trying to get me because I probably would never be able to sleep at night if I've ever, if I've just was thinking about that, so. They can find a bunch of different things. And then all of a sudden, they hang up 'cause they know they've been had, so. So my grandfather that lived in Minnesota, he, he uh, he had that voice, and I would try to talk like this all the time. So this isn't, you know, even though the videos are very interesting and entertaining, and there's a lot of laughs and things like that, you are dealing with criminals, so we never really advise that people go out and do this themselves. Scammer Payback, aka Pierogi, is a Youtuber who specializes in scam-baiting content creation. Once you confirm that subscription, you will regularly There's text support, there's a refund scam, and then there's things like the Social Security Administration, and that one is a pretty big one that's kind of died down a little bit, but the first one, the, the text support scam started, there were a lot of call centers in India that were doing legitimate technical support, and they were being outsourced by bigger IT companies and organizations. [00:41:45] Pierogi: It is. 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